More Financial Support for Welsh Hill Farmers

For government to create an uncomplicated subsidy system to protect Welsh hill farmers and hill farming in general and to implement such subsidy for hill farmers as a matter of urgency. 

Why the contribution is important

Many hill farmers survive on the breadline of financial viability, they should not work and live in financial uncertainty! Hill farmers need an uncomplicated subsidy system that takes them out and above the poverty margins that many continue to struggle with on a daily basis. Hill farmers manage difficult ecologically rich and bio diverse landscape - their financial rewards should commiserate with the complexities and sheer hard graft they encounter every working day. The Welsh Hill Farmers are an endangered species; they need our government's protection at all costs! 

by ideaslab on September 05, 2016 at 11:26AM

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  • Posted by coedty1 September 19, 2016 at 07:31

    it is important in rural Wales that Welsh upland farmers are supported as this will keep the rural communities and rural businesses flourishing, they need this support more than other sectors because they are working under the harshest conditions, according to Government statistics they have the lowest profit margin of all the agricultural sectors. The environment will be protected by this support, as it is the upland farmers that are the most protective of wildlife and flaura and faun, the sheep and cattle in the uplands are the tools to keep the vegetation managment, if these protectors of the uplands are allowed to disappear, then it will be the end of rural life as it is now, local businesses will disappear, and the the Welsh communities and way of life will also die, and you will have barren villages all over Wales, which will not be good for the environment, language nore the tourist trade in Wales.
  • Posted by EllisHuws September 26, 2016 at 12:04

    The problem is, "hill farming" isn't specific. I'd support hill farming that was rewilding, reforesting, plant-based, and helped to cover the hills in forest as they once were before we cut the trees down; I wouldn't support hill farming that was just yet more sheep and cows on fairly barren hillside, as we see across most of Wales. We can do better than that, and restore what used to be.
  • Posted by AlexandraCook September 27, 2016 at 12:49

    I'd support those animal hill farms which could prove to increase biodiversity and accessibility of the land to tourists, to produce affordable food or other useful resources benefiting the community, to show initiative and innovation in running the business, not just "business as usual".
  • Posted by Peter_Chappell October 27, 2016 at 11:46

    Fine if payments are pillar two style in that they are made to pay for public benefits such as improved biodiversity, landscapes etc. However, in the context of there not being enough money to pay for public services and the government in deficit, I would question if direct subsidy is a luxury that can be afforded in 2016?

    If farms are uneconomic without direct subsidy, then reducing direct subsidy should force the diversification required to move rural businesses into more financially sustainable business models. No doubt some farms will not survive, but others will adapt, and in the end what is left should hopefully be more resilient, and less dependant on hand outs.
  • Posted by CelynMenai February 23, 2017 at 13:52

    Diolch i chi am rannu eich syniadau a sylwadau!

    Mae eich blaenoriaethau a syniadau yn cael eu defnyddio i helpu’r Pwyllgor i ysgrifennu ei adroddiad ar sut y gallwn ddatblygu egwyddorion sy'n sail i bolisi amaethyddiaeth a datblygu gwledig newydd i Gymru. Am ragor o wybodaeth, plîs cysylltwch â fi ar Mi fyddai’n sicr o ddiweddaru’r tudalennau hyn a’r sgwrs fel mae hyn yn datblygu.

    Mae eich syniadau a’ch blaenoriaethau hefyd wedi bod o gymorth i’r Pwyllgor wrth iddo wahodd sefydliadau a chyrff cynrychioliadol i’r Senedd i roi tystiolaeth ar lafar ar ddyfodol amaeth yng Nghymru.

    O ddiddordeb , mae'r Pwyllgor yn cynnal nifer o ymgynghoriadau newydd ar hyn o bryd. Mae croeso i chi gysylltu yn uniongyrchol, neu ymweld â wefan y Pwyllgor am fanylion pellach:

    Diolch o galon i chi gyd eto!


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